August 26, 2015

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Cataloging, Barcoding, Serials and Record Sets


Edie ElliottShelley StonePamela Thomas

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Edie Elliott: Welcome to SHARE Chat! This session will be from 1 - 2 PM. The hosts will be Edie Elliott, IHLS-Edwardsville, and Shelley Stone, IHLS-DuQuoin. This session will be chat only--no audio or webcam. To post a chat, type your question or comment in the box at the bottom of your screen and hit Enter. You can change the size of the text you see on your screen by clicking the dropdown menu at the top right of the Chat screen (to the left of the word Attendees), and clicking Text size. This will affect only what you see--it won’t change the size for anyone else. Thanks for attending today’s session!

Edie Elliott: The focus of today’s chat is cataloging, barcoding, serials and record sets. For SHARE catalogers, attendance at the entire session qualifies for 1 hour of cataloging CE credit. Please sign in with your full name and library so we can make sure you get credit. You won’t need to submit a web form.

Edie Elliott: Good afternoon, everybody! If the weather where you are is as nice as it is here in Edwardsville, we should all take our computer outside!

Edie Elliott: Just a reminder, we have several Searching and Matching classes and Barcoding in Polaris classes scheduled in September at various locations. We also have a Book Cataloging class at the Marion library on September 30

Shelley Stone: Let us know if you need them in other locations.

Elena Crowell-Belleville Public: Edie, will we have any cataloging classes in Edwardsville soon?

Yvonne Williams West Sangamon Public Library: And Rochester??

Edie Elliott: Elena, we only have Searching and Matching, and Barcoding scheduled right now (Sep 15). What class are you looking for?

Elena Crowell-Belleville Public: Joan has suggested that our new acquisitions clerk take them all at some point. She has taken searching and matching and barcoding.

Elena Crowell-Belleville Public: I wouldnt think she would need OCLC classes or anything like that.

Edie Elliott: Yvonne, we have Searching and Matching, and Barcoding scheduled in Decatur on Sep 9--I guess tht would be the closest for you. There is also going to be a cataloging workday at Rochester, I believe around Sep 11. Are you looking for any class in particular?

Edie Elliott: Elena, is your acquisitions person going to become a full cataloger?

Yvonne Williams West Sangamon Public Library: Just looking for training that is close so we don't have to drive so far.

Elena Crowell-Belleville Public: No, but does have permissions to edit records.

Elena Crowell-Belleville Public: So she can manipulate the ISBNs.

Yvonne Williams West Sangamon Public Library: Cataloging workday in Rochester is great, will mark our calendar.

Edie Elliott: Just a reminder, if there are 3 or more people needing a class, we'll come to you, if you have the space. And the 3 or more don't have to be from the same library.

Yvonne Williams West Sangamon Public Library: Will the Cataloging workday appear on the L2 calendar?

Dena Porter-MRNP: Not to change the subject, but if the bib record has a 092, but not a 082 are we required to have a 082 in the bib record as well?

Shelley Stone: Dena, no one or the other is fine

Dena Porter-MRNP: thanks, that's we thought just checking.

Edie Elliott: Yvonne, yes, the workday will be on L2

Elena Crowell-Belleville Public: Edie, what classes do you think my Acquisition's Clerk needs?

April Jensen Lincoln Public Library: what is the differnce between 260 & 264, publisher vs. distributor?

Shelley Stone: April, the 260 is used for publisher and distributor when the cataloging is AACR and the 264 is used for RDA cataloging

Edie Elliott: Elena, I don't know enough about the acquisitions side and what your acquisitions person has to do to be able to answer that competently. If Joan thinks they should take the cataloging classes beyond searching and matching, I'd go with that

April Jensen Lincoln Public Library: got it. thank you.

Elena Crowell-Belleville Public: Ok, thank you Edie.

Shelly Smith -Forsyth: Are we to leave in 970 tags?

Brittany Maine - Belleville Public Library: Yes.

Elena Crowell-Belleville Public: Yes!

Edie Elliott: Shelley, yes, you should leave those in

Elena Crowell-Belleville Public: Those are our acquisition tags

Elena Crowell-Belleville Public: We will remove them when we get the book in and catalog it.

Denise Putz - Tri-Township Public: No opinion on Regency fiction, yes to Christian fiction and Romantic suspense.

Joyce Bringenberg @ Glen Carbon: The only change that our circ staff has an issue with is Christian fiction. They feel that when the patrons request Christian fiction they are wanting love stories and not other types of Religious fiction that would include such things as Tim LaHaye's left behind series.

Edie Elliott: Also, we mentioned in the catalogers training session that you should retain price information in the subfield c of the 020. That is sometimes used by Acquisitions as well. Some were deleting that in their legacy systems, but for Polaris we need to keep it

April Jensen Lincoln Public Library: I thought we were taking out 900 tags.

Shelley Stone: Edie, your question disappeared from the discussion notes box. What was the question?

Edie Elliott: Joyce, that's interesting that they don't consider the left behind series as Christian fiction.

Dena Porter-MRNP: I can live without Regency fiction, and romantic suspense (even though I read those), but for Christian fiction I think it depends on how politically correct we want to be. Not all religion(s) are Christian.

Pamela Thomas: Religious fiction is a valid LCSH

Joyce Bringenberg @ Glen Carbon: They do consider it Christian fiction, but when patrons ask for Christian fiction, what they really want is Love Stories. They think that Religious fiction works best for things like the left behind series.

Brittany Maine - Belleville Public Library: For those looking for love stories in the Christian Fiction realm, wouldn't they just look for books that also had the term Romance fiction (that's that Love stories turned into, right?)

Edie Elliott: The question was whether we should keep the gsafd terms Regency fiction, Christian fiction, and Romantic suspense fiction in Polaris records even if they don't become part of the gsafd. I didn't realize everyone could see the discussion notes. I thought I was the only one who could see it. I reworded it a couple of times trying to get it to make sense. Sorry about that! But if you have input, we'd like to see it!

Joyce Bringenberg @ Glen Carbon: I make it easier for the patrons to distinguish between the actual love stories and other things that are religious but not love stories.

Edie Elliott: Romance fiction is the lcgft term that will replace the gsafd term Love stories in genre headings

Edie Elliott: Are there others who think the Left Behind series shouldn't be given the genre term Christian fiction?

Brittany Maine - Belleville Public Library: No, it definitely should.

Esther Curry--C.E. Brehm Memorial PLD: I vote for keeping Regency fiction.

Joyce Bringenberg @ Glen Carbon: I did tell them that they would still be able to find the love stories by searching for Religious fiction and Romance fiction together.

Linda Richter Trenton public: Left behind should be

Dena Porter-MRNP: I think Left Behind is Christian fiction, not all christian fic has a love story as the main plot.

Edie Elliott: Joyce, that's a good idea, to search both headings together

Shelley Stone: Keep in mind that we have lots of changes to make to genre terms in Polaris before they will all be done the same way. Right now you will find both Love stories and Romance fiction (for the newer ones)

Edie Elliott: That's true and there are lots of other headings that will be affected as well: Mystery fiction will be Detective and mystery fiction, Adventure fiction will be Action and Adventure fiction, etc. Cleanup takes time and there will be a lot to do!

Shelley Stone: Yes, database cleanup is a full time job!

Edie Elliott: This discussion is a good example of why catalogers and circulation folks need to be working together, so we know how people are searching and what patrons are looking for!

Edie Elliott: April, I don't think we ever answered your question about deleting 9XX tags. Most can be deleted, but you should retain any 970s, and any 945 with a subfield b OCLC DO NOT SET. Shelley, are there any others we should be keeping?

April Jensen Lincoln Public Library: thanks. i have only deleted one and it was a 999. just want to make sure i don't mess anything up.

Shelley Stone: The 994 can be kept. It doesn't hurt anything and Joan and I both like it.

Edie Elliott: We only have a few minutes left. Are there any other questions or comments?

April Jensen Lincoln Public Library: i think i will just stay away from deleting. now adding. that is a different animal.

Shelley Stone: There is a document that shows which tags to delete, April. It was a handout for last month's meeting but we didn't get to it before time ran out. It will be moved to the next meeting.

April Jensen Lincoln Public Library: good i will be there and i still have the handouts.

Yvonne Williams West Sangamon Public Library: DITTO

Edie Elliott: We're going to close the chat now. Thanks for the good discussion, everyone!

Yvonne Williams West Sangamon Public Library: Thanks

Kathy Goleman Divernon Township Library: Thank You

Shelly Smith -Forsyth: thanks

Kay Burrous South Macon: Thanks so much for all the information.

Elena Crowell-Belleville Public: Thank you.

Michelle Richerson-Eldorado Memorial: Thank you!

Esther Curry--C.E. Brehm Memorial PLD: Thanks

Marilyn Hammond/Eldorado Memorial: thank you

Christina Nichols - Lake Land College: Thanks. Enjoy the beautiful weather.

Dena Porter-MRNP: thanks! have a great afternoon :)

April Becker, Hanson Professional Services Inc.: Thank you!

Glenda from Riverton CUSD14: Thanks